tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post4075911860902189071..comments2024-03-18T14:37:21.899-10:00Comments on Pretzel Logic's Market Charts and Analysis: SPX Update: A Discussion on QE3 and the Market's Potential for DisappointmentPretzelLogichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11613859771824863784noreply@blogger.comBlogger292125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-40001146130547465482012-01-21T04:44:34.417-10:002012-01-21T04:44:34.417-10:00You are...don't worry about that. And if you d...You are...don't worry about that. And if you don't think you've done enough...you will.jbg1911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-50625579018514156872012-01-21T04:37:50.154-10:002012-01-21T04:37:50.154-10:00dont know what your talking about, what is an atil...dont know what your talking about, what is an atila. dunno. never heard of him/her. saw u post tza at buying below 26 and trade went against you and guess what. you never mentioned it again. not sound financial advice at all. if you want to be the TEACHER which you are not, then teach the right way. you have not mentioned that big loser. just want to help people with good ideas is all. holding a 3xetf for more than a day will wreck a portfolio. as do all levereged etf. carry on. i have problems loggin in on disqus and this blog for some reason. anyway i feel a top is near, but til trend breaks im long. glcracked13noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-78813211038764110302012-01-21T03:25:25.979-10:002012-01-21T03:25:25.979-10:00I believe multiple personas are commonly referred ...I believe multiple personas are commonly referred to as "sock puppets" -- when intentionally used as a tactic to deceive.CalDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-76890201333175188832012-01-21T02:18:49.473-10:002012-01-21T02:18:49.473-10:00I want to alert the bloggers that there is somethi...I want to alert the bloggers that there is something going on here. Go look at my response to 'cracked13' to identify it. One blogger has multiple avatars, multiple persona, keeps evolving into new ones, has now evolved from a half-face female (chic & brittany upon entry) to now a male (Billiebobbiebuster, cracked13) and its (we will call it an it) sole purpose is to disrupt, confuse, and hinder the blog. This internet fraud has been going on for a while here. It is important to look at the track record of a blogger to see when they REAL TIME post their recommendation, if they provide a tgt and time frame (and stops altho I feel anyone playing this game should be well versed in stops), and to see when the REAL TIME exit is. This and only this is objective analysis, not smoke and mirrors, not after-the fact inventive paper trades as this individual is doing. If someone with multiple persona says they "followed" the blog short and are blaming the blog for lost money but the same person (remember, multiple persona) says they are long from 1240 how can that long position be the truth when they joined the blog when SPX was at 1260. <br /><br />More general, Pretzel sets the standards for ethical and objective behavior. It is his blog, consider yourself in his living room. Be polite and respectful to him and to all. He has been attacked (as well as a few others here), the most brutal, subjective, and anti-social stuff I have ever seen in my past as a moderator for 3 different blogs. There are plenty of other blogs out there; if you feel you cannot get something from being an objective positive contributor here feel free to move on as he stated. These are things any growing blog has to suffer through it seems. IMO ALL hostility comes from losing money, ANON just made that clear to me with announcing that his puts went to zero. I do not remember PL or anyone here mentioning to buy puts on the mrkt, or wonder why someone made such a longer term commitment when PL said 1310 was the tgt. You bought a put when the tgt of 1310 was mentioned? Come on now. Call/put strategy is very complex, both in price and time. I would never go in around a top or bottom but in a clear 'belly' of an EW3 or 5 move. We are in no way close yet. Make your own decisions, your own trades. You lose, your fault. On to N E X T T R A D E.katzo7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-48277934641713470332012-01-21T02:03:23.082-10:002012-01-21T02:03:23.082-10:00heres the Friday video as this VIX trader explains...heres the Friday video as this VIX trader explains the 60,000 FEB 19 PUT on the VIX .. greece theory is a good one. any other ideas? <br /><br />http://youtu.be/4faZ7BNYJBgsandyone44noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-27900564131707161832012-01-21T01:58:05.112-10:002012-01-21T01:58:05.112-10:00(I reposted from my thread below so people can com...(I reposted from my thread below so people can comment on VIX) Good points William Li. amazing how soo many people look at the VIX for a<br /> reliable Guage on the market, yet it can be traded also. That 60,000 <br />PUT on FEB 19's of the VIX on Friday was a day after someone bought a HUGE 22<br /> -28 Vega spread on the VIX a day earlier. Mayby one large player is <br />'one upping' another big bet..? heres the Video recap in the options <br />pit of the VIX.. Mayby some Option pros on here can chime in.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...sandyone44noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-43535841387075250842012-01-21T01:53:48.256-10:002012-01-21T01:53:48.256-10:00Good points William Li. amazing how soo many peopl...Good points William Li. amazing how soo many people look at the VIX for a reliable Guage on the market, yet it can be traded also. That 60,000 PUT on FEB 19's of the VIX was a day after someone bought a HUGE 22 -28 Vega spread on the VIX a day earlier. Mayby one large player is 'one upping' another big bet..? heres the Video recap in the options pit of the VIX.. Maby some Option pros on here can chime in.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JWmBZTgL40&list=UU83RU3yDhHwzG9d9LD1x5yQ&index=4&feature=plcpsandyone44noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-42589710890052982412012-01-21T01:13:49.200-10:002012-01-21T01:13:49.200-10:00"last one not so much." Enlighten me. Wh..."last one not so much." Enlighten me. Which part of going to 1310 did PL get wrong?katzo7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-5327385427974150472012-01-21T00:47:56.074-10:002012-01-21T00:47:56.074-10:00No, he/she with its 10 different persona is just a...No, he/she with its 10 different persona is just a PLAIN TROLL. Read what is above.katzo7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-33535171686090772602012-01-21T00:44:13.279-10:002012-01-21T00:44:13.279-10:00Troll's troll, I like that.Troll's troll, I like that.katzo7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-83430598042824735912012-01-21T00:30:04.405-10:002012-01-21T00:30:04.405-10:00cracked13 = waterbuoy = billabuster = billybutler ...cracked13 = waterbuoy = billabuster = billybutler = chic7 = fergalicious = brittanynewbie = brittany (the Brazilian waitress who cannot speek Engleesh very well, LOL)= ooops = my personal troll.... Dust Devil saw through this guise in a New York minute, very perceptive DD. This one is one of the nastiest I have ever seen on the net, well actually A NUN (a guy who knows about psychology but cannot even self-reflect) comes in first place in this, this new nightmare to the blog comes in second. This guy, note it has changed for a partial face girl to a guy now, has a history of going long at say 1240, or saying they went long then way after the fact, and holding thru the run up, then getting out at 1240, no money made there. He/she also has a history for misleading investors with terrible analysis such as calling that gold was going to 5,000$ when it hit its top while I called for a retrace in gold, oil was going to 150$ right at the top, and SPX was going straight to 1450 when it peaked. He/she also posts few charts which look like they were done by a Cub Scout and steals its research from Doug Kass as this one is not so swift in that department.<br /><br />On XTrends, to gather a following, or was it to scam the members(?), it would post, then with her multiple persona would reply to itself how great of an analyst he/she is. This is internet fraud and it has started doing it here with the waterbuoy & billabuster post. Atilla outed this behavior and put this nightmare on a time delay where its posts had to be approved first by a moderator. Anyone who questioned the was immediately bashed by the multiple personalities so it looked like there were many posters coming to support. There is a psychologic name for this behavior and it ain't pretty. He/she's chronic complaint to Atilla was that it needed to post in real time; I guess bashing ppl needs to be seen in real time.Why would someone who was trying to build a reputation with their trading analysis, if you could call this lousy advice analysis, HAVE 10 different persona for posting investing advice. Isn't the idea to build a reputation on quality analysis? The definition of a troll is found right here.katzo7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-9663994993168419432012-01-20T22:13:37.554-10:002012-01-20T22:13:37.554-10:00Whoops. Or not. Nevahmind...Whoops. Or not. Nevahmind...Pretzel Logichttp://PretzelCharts.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-11445018553635628842012-01-20T22:12:25.519-10:002012-01-20T22:12:25.519-10:00Okay, if you turn on IE's "compatability ...Okay, if you turn on IE's "compatability view" (the little icon that looks like a ripped piece of paper next to the web address in your browser), then it reloads just fine everytime.Pretzel Logichttp://PretzelCharts.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-6481361675036738502012-01-20T22:06:25.145-10:002012-01-20T22:06:25.145-10:00I just go back to the original bookmark and it rel...I just go back to the original bookmark and it reloads over the page that's not reloading. If that makes any sense.Pretzel Logichttp://PretzelCharts.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-50726660412701850622012-01-20T22:01:13.704-10:002012-01-20T22:01:13.704-10:00Okay, the page problem is being caused by Disqus. ...Okay, the page problem is being caused by Disqus. (Act surprised!)Pretzel Logichttp://PretzelCharts.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-85496733684611830882012-01-20T22:00:16.394-10:002012-01-20T22:00:16.394-10:00testtestPretzel Logichttp://PretzelCharts.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-90390450539052193082012-01-20T21:52:49.816-10:002012-01-20T21:52:49.816-10:00lol -- being a "troll's troll" isn&#...lol -- being a "troll's troll" isn't the same thing. :DPretzel Logichttp://PretzelCharts.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-20970365972026226002012-01-20T21:22:10.817-10:002012-01-20T21:22:10.817-10:00Trollin...trollin...
Living on reds, Vitamin C, an...Trollin...trollin...<br />Living on reds, Vitamin C, and ...well you get the idea. That reminds me of when I had 4 part-time gigs during the 2007-2009 times because there weren't any full-time ones. A certain someone's lifestyle reminds me of that tune right now. <br /><br /><br />BTW, it appears there has been a certain amount of "interseting" dynamics at play on this fine blog since I was last here. This time, I did not instigate one bit. Glad to see Brian back to help keep the trolls at bay...I just thought of something. Am I one of those trolls I'm talking about?Juannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-61006721329286239202012-01-20T20:58:13.027-10:002012-01-20T20:58:13.027-10:00No worries. I don't care about different name...No worries. I don't care about different names, as long as it doesn't appear to be a "tactic" -- your names were all basically the same variation of the same thing, so I pretty much knew who you were. Pretzel Logichttp://PretzelCharts.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-33971729777005163202012-01-20T20:56:58.340-10:002012-01-20T20:56:58.340-10:00This is one of the things I'm going to spend t...This is one of the things I'm going to spend the weekend examining. I started working on the NDX last night, but it's simply too much to get done in one night with everything else...Pretzel Logichttp://PretzelCharts.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-66363071839966777942012-01-20T20:55:02.634-10:002012-01-20T20:55:02.634-10:00Brian, for some reason your post made it into my e...Brian, for some reason your post made it into my email, but not onto the site, so I'm going to repost it here:<br /><br />Good to be back, Pretz. It was around the middle of last week when I finally 'got it' with respect to what this market is doing. I was pretty hands off and just making minor trades here and there after that big loss on a position that was up by $5K at one point. Very humbling to violate all your basic 'rules' like that you tell yourself you will never break. <br /><br />And the wave action around then was simply NOT FUCKING NORMAL. It's back to 'typical' again though. And since then I'm back to producing expected results. What I find most telling lately though is the seller's confusion. <br /><br />There is a STRUCTURE to what is happening to produce that confusion though. Which could not possibly have been discerned without observing it for a bit. Some of the takeaways though: the moves down that touch where the last leg up are VERY IMPORTANT for undestanding what is happening. Pro shorts aren't getting wiped out. They are giving themselves brief escape hatches along the way. Ones that the retail crowd will surely miss. <br /><br />Longs are only being nominally and minimally rewarded in the meantime. The market spends about 88% of the time moving higher and the rest moving flat or lower for a reason. It's all about creating a (mis)perception. <br /><br />The action of the moves up and moves down are CLEARLY 95% bot driven. Only computers can produce those kinds of waves and movements. Human tendencies would never produce what we're seeing. The up waves frequently fucking blast through ALL sellers resistance and defy fuckuhg gravity, all ST indicators being maxed out, etc. it happens at least once for a longer than two hour period. Which is retail shorts destroying time. These are very unusual wave movements that are not often seen, much less every fucking trading day. And then evey now and then you get the violent and HARD and fast move down to touch about where the last leg up stated. That's pro short preservation time. Then the advance can continue again.Pretzel Logichttp://PretzelCharts.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-40268865346737160802012-01-20T19:47:13.634-10:002012-01-20T19:47:13.634-10:00no problems here. But, serious question regarding ...no problems here. But, serious question regarding minor 2, which can't retrace (technically) more than 100% if i understand correctly<br />1) the NDX closed yesterday above its july 2011 high: 2441 vs 2438. 2) the DJIA is "only" 156 points below it's may 2011 high, which is ~1.2%, Knowing minor 2 cannot retrace more than 100%, this run is getting awfully close... (from a DJIA perspective), 3) the SPX has still some ways to go.<br /><br />How to interpret all this?<br /><br />must say that the NDX and IXIC appear to be moving away from their upper BBs after several very close closes, and aren't they kinda trend setters?soulsurferusanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-40420926560580518622012-01-20T19:10:47.635-10:002012-01-20T19:10:47.635-10:00Have had the same problem but only in Internet Exp...Have had the same problem but only in Internet Explorer.<br /><br />And BTW, sorry for posting under different screen names - finally sat down and deleted them all, too hard to link it all and I'm not the swiftest when it comes to technology.<br /><br />KennyKenny Boagni 3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-31120390031443017392012-01-20T18:39:02.224-10:002012-01-20T18:39:02.224-10:00Could be an off-by-one error (common occupational ...Could be an off-by-one error (common occupational hazard in my biz). Let me ask you this: if today were Friday and it were a normal week (no holidays), would "4 days earlier" = Monday or Tuesday? I was using Tuesday in that example. <br /><br />If Monday (or last Friday in our particular case) then SP-500 and RUT both = 13 in sequential count today. DJI and NYSE = 8.CalDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-947237681666122369.post-65832283078299464612012-01-20T18:37:13.278-10:002012-01-20T18:37:13.278-10:00i was able to come back in with a new browser wind...i was able to come back in with a new browser window. the comment i made also submitted successfully. the old browser window had to be closed.William Linoreply@blogger.com